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#10: Somehow, Zollypod Returned

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It's the Return of the Pod! Carson and Preston are back to discuss what they've been up to in the last few years, recap summer 2025, and what they're looking forward to in the Zollypod relaunch.

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Preston:

Welcome back to Zollypod. I'm your host, Preston Moore. Joined by my co-host Carson Terrell. Carson. We have been gone for a little, a little while. A lot of pe I think a lot of people thought we were dead, but we're not.

Carson:

This is a little bit of when Palpatine returned and the rise of Skywalker. This is our moment. We're Ian McDermott at the end of the, the first trailer, and everyone is perplexed on how, why.

Preston:

Somehow.

Carson:

But we're defying all odds right now.

Preston:

Zollypod returned, Zollypod returned against all the odds. Truly. Um, yeah, I mean it's kind of, I just kind of think that we should just kind of explain. In this episode what's been going on because it is kind of difficult to maintain a podcast regularly in 2025 when you have full-time jobs and you're busy and you have your life. And Carson, you have had more significant life updates than I've had in the last two years or however long it's been since we've recorded one.

Carson:

And I cannot believe, first of all, that it's been like two years. I think I got an email the other day'cause I had, I think put like our subscription on hold for like,'cause like people forget when you have a podcast, like you have to like continually like update it. Otherwise it'll be like, your episodes will go away in 42 days. And I was like, oh crap. And like literally as soon as that, or like before that even happened, we had. Started texting back and forth, like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if we brought this back? And then lo and behold, here we are. Yeah, all I can really say is life has been busy in a good way. Work has been really busy. I got married this year.

Preston:

I was gonna

Carson:

I traveled

Preston:

in a good way for you

Carson:

Yes,

Preston:

married

Carson:

a great way. And I think we're just both like at that stage of our life, like mid twenties, just like. I feel like everyone is having major life events like every other month. I don't know if it feels like that in your life too, where it's like, oh my gosh, I feel so obligated to like, do all these different things for other people and like show up and do, you know, obviously it's, it's all fun, but like, it, it gets, it adds up and kind of feels like life on the road. Going to weddings every other weekend is the best way I could describe it, but yeah. How about you, Preston? I know you've been busy too. What have you been up to?

Preston:

I,

Carson:

going on?

Preston:

am not married. That has not changed, and I can confidently say from our last recording compared to now, I am no closer to getting married than I was then.

Carson:

You mean? Our Soca season one review didn't have people in your dms

Preston:

yeah. You know, I, when we released that, I really thought, this is it. This is my, this is gonna be, I should have put it in my, in my Tinder or in my hinge or something. Here's a link to my,

Carson:

The Just delete all bios. Just host Zollypod that's there. There's no, it's like no fun facts, just, it's like you get to the fun facts. Three fun facts about me. Host a Zollypod host a Zollypod host a Zollypod.

Preston:

Host, producer,

Carson:

No,

Preston:

co-creator,

Carson:

no further questions.

Preston:

Yeah. I'm just gonna link all the episodes and, and that's what, this is, this, that's what this is for me. That's why I wanted to bring this podcast back. Pars Carson is just to hopefully get some women in my dms. No. I, I've been pretty busy. You know, I've been, you know, living back here in Texas and, keeping busy as best I can. Doing sports reporting and a lot of other things. Right now I'm kind of planning some next steps for the future, making, hopefully some big life changes. And over the course of the next year, we'll see kind of what that looks like, whenever that sort of does unfurl. But with all of that being said. When it comes to this show, this is something that, you know, people asked, and I know that you and I kind of talked a little bit about this, but people always ask, when you announce that you have something like this, and then, you do like 10 episodes and then it just kind of trails off. People are like, do you have a podcast? Right? Don't you have a podcast? Or like, when are you still doing that? Is that coming out? And so I've had a lot of people within my life just ask, Hey, is this something that. Do you have a podcast? And I'm like, well. I do. And I, I would like to get back into it. And that kind of got me thinking about it and I've had a little bit more time on my hands even recently, to go to the theater, just in general. So I've got a lot of, there's a lot of movies that I've wanted to talk about in recent months, as well as just some that I didn't get to talk about on here over the course of the last couple years. And I know that you kind of are in a similar state right now.

Carson:

For sure. And I think like ironically, it kind of goes, runs parallel to like I haven't been able to watch movies as much because when I do watch movies, it's very much something like, I feel like, uh, like right now it's like. I wanna put the intention to it and sit down and not feel distracted. It's like being in the right mindset to like just watch a movie. It sounds so stupid, but it's also like the same way I felt about this, bringing this podcast back is like, you wanna do it right and you want to do, put intention behind it. And sometimes when I like. I don't know. You ever have that like weird thing where it's like you have all these expectations about a new movie or someone recommends you a movie and you go and you watch it, but you're just like, you're tired, you're not in the right mood, whatever it may be happening in your outside life and you're like, man, like I can't get through this. Like, this is good, but I can't give it the appreciation that I want to. I feel like that's kind of been my media diet for the last two years. Just with how busy I've been and then you get to a point where you're like, man, I don't know if I could do this and respect the art as much as I would like to. And it sounds so silly. It's like, okay, most people are like, I'm just gonna put on Happy Gilmore too on a Friday night and have some laughs, which I did watch Happy Gilmore too, and I had some laughs.

Preston:

with, with a, with Happy Gilmore too. No disrespect to anyone who worked on Happy Gilmore too, but I would just kind of put that on and be on my phone maybe for a little bit of it. I'm not gonna lie, I think it was made for that.

Carson:

And I feel

Preston:

tries that.

Carson:

Exactly. And so I feel like every fiber of like attention span, eating like black box that your phone is, and like with everything, it's like it's become harder and harder to like just break that cycle. And I just felt like. I don't know, like if you look at my letterbox, there's probably some months where I watched like one movie,

Preston:

I think I

Carson:

there might be a month on there.

Preston:

missed it, where I

Carson:

Yeah. Like,

Preston:

I went, I, I was bad. Our friends have

Carson:

like I,

Preston:

relentlessly

Carson:

oh, we are running memes at this point that like, yeah. It's like, oh, you didn't watch movie this week. You Biden as well be Cars and Preston. And it's like, it's derogatory. Dang in the group chat right now,

Preston:

It's tied to our name. we

Carson:

so,

Preston:

and not in

Carson:

maybe in a way also bringing this back is like, just to get back into the swing of things and, you know, not be the guy in the group chat that says they're gonna go watch a movie in theaters. Then three months goes by, like, I know the other week I was. Messaging the group chat, I'm like, man, I wish 28 years later didn't cost$20 to, to watch. And everyone's just like, you're so stupid. Like, you should have gone in June. And I'm like, yeah, I probably should have.

Preston:

Yep.

Carson:

And that's what I got that

Preston:

And where we're at. It is, sort of something like this can kind of, I think it can you on to watch a little more because we have become something of a meme within, our circles and to those of them that are listening now, just know. You gotta, it's done now. We're done with that. We're done with that. We're back and we're gonna be watching movies and we are no longer gonna be the memes. Now, as far as catching up with a lot of the movies that we missed, I know that that may be difficult. Over the course of the last couple of years though, there has been, a plethora of good movies that have come out, good TV that's come out and, you know, obviously we've had, some trials in terms of getting to the theater and in terms of watching movies, but I know that neither of us entirely stopped. I know that neither of us, missed out on everything. So with that being said, I wanna talk a little bit about some of our favorites over the course of the last couple of years, and like we said, there's been a 1,000,001 changes, over the course of the last two years, but Carson, what are some favorites of yours that you've seen whether they came out in the last two years or if you just watched them in the last two years, or you've taken a liking to them or something along those lines?

Carson:

So now I'm trying to tabulate when our last episode was.

Preston:

This is ballpark.

Carson:

Was,

Preston:

was a while.

Carson:

okay. Was it in, was it in 2024 that we last recorded? It had to have been, right?

Preston:

I would

Carson:

No,

Preston:

but

Carson:

I feel like it's like January, 2024. So I'm just gonna go with January, 2024 is a rough ballpark and I'm trying to like. I tabulate from there. Some favorite movies. It's crazy like Dune part two has already come out and Dune part three is already filming. And that's crazy to say that the last time, one of our episodes we had interviewed, someone who'd worked on the first Dune and it was like, that was really fun. That was one of my favorite episodes, that we did. Just seeing that barrel Forward as a franchise and be successful was like really cool.

Preston:

That

Carson:

Um, second movie is just as good.

Preston:

that I've

Carson:

Yeah. Um, that's awesome.

Preston:

that movie so many times.

Carson:

Yeah. I just got the 4K Blu-ray actually, and I'm totally due for a rewatch'cause I saw it twice in theaters and I don't think I've actually watched it since it came out in theaters and I'm really excited to rewatch. But yeah. What a movie like. Just gorgeous. Again, you know, from a technical perspective, like just makes every modern blockbuster look silly. Other than avatar way of water,

Preston:

Yeah, which we will get to Avatar in this episode. I will, I will make sure I'll shoehorn it in if I have to.

Carson:

we are actually paid by Disney to shill,

Preston:

Yeah.

Carson:

avatar, fire, and Ash. That is why conveniently.

Preston:

back, uh, because Avatar Fire and Ashe is coming out in a couple months

Carson:

Yeah, this is like a three month promotional cycle. So we probably will just,

Preston:

and said, Hey, you guys need to get back on the air.

Carson:

it's gonna be like, instead of like soups, like shaking hands with a Tom Cruise on the set of Mission Impossible, it's gonna be us like thumbs up with, James Cameron in New Zealand, like on a giant set and it'll all be worth it. You'll be so influenced by us.

Preston:

you'll be so influenced incredibly in, you're not gonna believe how

Carson:

Because the,

Preston:

be.

Carson:

The$2.7 billion movies need our influence, that's for sure.

Preston:

do.

Carson:

Dune part two. Really, really good. Loved it. Definitely one of my favorite blockbusters of not only the last two years, but five, 10 years way back from what I can remember. Also a lot of cool smaller movies have come out, I know recently, I saw weapons this summer and that was awesome. And that's also like a$30 million movie that was like kind of just punched above its weight. And I was like, oh crap. How did they pull some of this off

Preston:

Yeah.

Carson:

at that budget range? And it kind of was like one of those movies that like, I'm sure you've had like inklings of this over the last two years. You're like, man, filmmaking is cool. I want to go. Abandon everything and go on a desert island and just watch movies all the time. I think that was one of those movies for me.

Preston:

and try to, you know, I'm moving to Hollywood, I'm going, I'm going, I'm

Carson:

Yeah. Yes. Like the whole, throw everything in the back of your car. I'm leaving. I'm going to la. Oh. Does sound like a dream. what else we've had, like how many? We've had like two full Oscar seasons probably since, since everything went down with the end of our last episode. Um, what are.

Preston:

in, in January 20, 24, I watched a lot. I, I, I actually ended up watching a good amount of movies and one of them. I know people had tried to get me to watch for a very long time. Was La La Land and that movie just sticks with you. And I know a lot of people obviously have seen that, I'm sure. But you know, whenever you watch that movie, I mean, that, that stuck with me. It stick with stuck with me for the next year and a half. You know, LA La Land is such a. It's such a fantastic movie musical. It's, it's just everything that, that I think a movie musical should be. And I was actually in the car just yesterday with my little brother and he like. So my little brother, he loves, he's, he's very much into music in the last couple of years, like extremely into music. But he loves like, and he's not gonna listen to this. So I can say this, John listens to, and I love him to death. He's my favorite person in the world. John listens to shittiest pop songs you've ever heard, uh, regularly, not

Carson:

So he's a real diet Pepsi, Addison Ray kind of guy.

Preston:

Well, you, I al I wish it was more of, more along those. You don't even know music can get to this level, until you hear it all the time. But not even that he listens to the kids bot versions of those.

Carson:

Oh fantastic.

Preston:

songs out there and then they just like up the octaves maybe like seven times to where it's nasally and just like high pitched and it's like, ooh, it's uh, I love him to death. Anyways, we were in the car and um, don't have kids, Bob on my phone and he knows this, so that's a non-negotiable, that's a non-starter for me. But we were in the car. he was just, he loves to just skip through songs. He doesn't even let them play. Like he'll shuffle my entire library, or he'll go through a go find a playlist of mine and he'll hit shuffle and he'll just skip through every single one. Even if they're ones, he knows, if he likes, like he won't let it play for five seconds and I'll just be like, oh, that's a good one. And it's gone before it starts. It's just who he is. But just yesterday, another day of Sun from La La Land came on. And I like, I like, you know, when your mom like reaches across the, the, the thing and like when you're hitting the brake and just like, stop as if you're gonna fly out of the, out of the windshield. I did that even though we were not in a dangerous, precarious situation. I reached over, I was like, no. We are not skipping this, we're not skipping another day of sun. You are gonna listen to this song and you are gonna like it. And he did. Um, and so I think things like that, you know, John's hard to impress in terms of, really anything at all. And he'll tell you when he's not impressed in terms of anything at all. And he was impressed by another day of Sun from La la Land. So that movie sticks with you, and even. The details of it, even if you're not seeing the amazing choreography and that number and all of the incredible cinematography and the colors and everything, even just listening to the music, you know, something like that can still be affecting. For someone like John who listens to. most BB Rexha, Tate, McCree,

Carson:

Oh, not David Gray.

Preston:

and I that you could ever even come up with. Another day of sun is now added to the, added to the, the library for John. Hopefully they don't make a kids Bob version

Carson:

I hope they don't, but it does just confirm that that movie has zero skips and you know, it may get, that movie may give me eternal depression, but soundtrack good.

Preston:

Yeah. Sound check analysis.

Carson:

That's, that's what we're here for. What else has been, I'm trying to look at my diary of things, of movies that have both come out and old movies that I've watched or watched for the first time. Um.

Preston:

Last year, one that came out, that, I mean, there were a couple that came out that I saw, but um. The heavy hitters I think of last, last summer, at least in terms of office and what had everybody showing up was two that I saw that I think of particularly, were inside Out Two and Deadpool and Wolverine, and those are big like franchise movies, you know, they're big sequels and, all that. But, I think that those, it's interesting to look back on both of those, actually, about a year later

Carson:

Yeah, totally.

Preston:

because. I liked inside out too. I didn't think I was as good as the first one, but I enjoyed it. And then Deadpool and Wolverine, I saw it the first time and I laughed a good bit, but

Carson:

Mm-hmm.

Preston:

I can't say I thought about it again ever. Especially now, I'm like that they made a Hugh Jackman Wolverine movie less than a year, about a year ago. Can you Even my, my automatic reaction to that statement is no, they didn't.

Carson:

You know what I saw today, actually, this is hilarious. It was a clip of someone. Analyzing the lyrics of, the Bo Burnham songs.'cause he, I guess he mentions Deadpool in one of the songs in the, the inside movie. Um, and then someone pulled a podcast clip.

Preston:

for the

Carson:

Nope, nope.

Preston:

on the mic

Carson:

For the record. For the record. I have not seen

Preston:

I'll stop.

Carson:

here we go. So

Preston:

silence after that.

Carson:

he hates Deadpool and he was talking about how Deadpool is like. You know, people are like, oh, Deadpool's one of us. He's ironic and just like, he kind of is just like, screw this and, you know, breaking the fourth wall and it's supposed to be like this, like relatable, like, funny guy. And he was contrasting that with like, okay, really Deadpool is like the$200 million. Disney backed. Merger. The only reason they have Deadpool is'cause they did this merger and like all this stuff and like that really it's, it's just a corporation selling back the idea of irony and like funniness to you. And like when I think back on that movie, I was like, it's kind of what I think of now. Just like I had fun in the moment, but at what cost to like, is this what movies and fun and like. It just felt like it was created in a lab. The more I think about it to like reverse manufacture what intellectual property could be.

Preston:

Yeah.

Carson:

And then I think about like, again, jumping the gun here, but like the earnesty and sincerity of something like Superman being like the complete antithesis to like that approach that Deadpool and Wolverine did. And I was like, man, I so prefer. The Superman approach a thousand times over, and I'm glad that movie was successful because now it wasn't as nearly as successful as Deadpool and Wolverine. And so who knows what havoc that will ultimately see what the lessons, um, from,

Preston:

though,

Carson:

from Marvel

Preston:

a year, because what we're like roughly a year and maybe what, two months since Deadpool and Wolverine Right

Carson:

Past it.

Preston:

and a year and a month

Carson:

Yeah, you still don't even know when he is gonna show up again.

Preston:

post Superman, which would be about a year from now, I would say After a year and two months of Superman, more people will remember Superman than currently. Remember Deadpool and Wolverine.

Carson:

I hope so.

Preston:

I have to believe that because Superman, like it just Deadpool and Wolverine. I look back on it and I'm, well, I don't look back on it. That's the thing is I just

Carson:

Yeah, very true.

Preston:

not come to my mind as something that happened. I cannot believe that they, and not only did they. Get Hugh Jackman to come back as Wolverine, they got him to come back as Wolverine number one. That's insane. People wanted that for so long, and didn't think it would've happened. And this iconic casting, and then they give him the suit, the Wolverine suit, the comic Wolverine suit that again, people have wanted for a very long time that Fox never did in of any of their X-Men movies. That's a huge deal After over 20 years of, of, of. Hugh Jackman is Wolverine. You're giving him the suit, and then they're pairing him with Deadpool, an incredibly successful character, both, critically and financially in his first two films. And again, a pairing that people really wanted to happen for a long time and kind of just resigned to the fact that it probably wouldn't, but people certainly wanted for so long. They do all of that. And then it's just so cookie cutter, there's nothing. To remember about it. It has no balls. Superman has a lot of balls. Superman takes risks. It goes out there, it has something to say, you know, and it's, it does feel very fresh and it feels, very unique. And I think one thing about Superman, even, you know, beyond the. The fact that it didn't make a whole, well, it, it was successful, but that it wasn't as successful as maybe some of the more hardcore fans of it wanted to be like you and I, I think did much more for the DC brand going forward. they needed a movie like this that was, know, relatively successful. Which it was, it wasn't like the biggest hit. but it was relatively successful enough people saw it the general audience perception of DC is like dark, gloomy, you know, serious compared to Marvel. Happy, lighthearted, fun. That's just kind of in a nut in a nutshell what, what it is. And think Superman probably did a good bit to reverse a lot of that, because of how optimistic it was, because of how bright it was, because of how fun it was and because how truly different it feels. And I'm a fan of a lot of Zach Snyder's films and I'm certainly a fan of Christopher Nolan's, the Dark Knight Films, and the Batman from Matt Reeves. It is very different, from all of those movies tonally, and I think that did a lot for, for, for DC as a brand going forward. So I do think that a lot of people will remember Superman or at least share it with people or you know, it seems like they're kind of building around it with Supergirl and Man of Tomorrow was recently announced as, as the direct sequel to it, and I think he's probably gonna make an appearance and. Peacemaker season two. That has not happened, but they've, I feel like it's gonna happen, but I don't know. I think it's gonna have a little more sticking power because of a lot of those reasons that you mentioned is it's very unique in its approach. It's very different. It's not just trying to, you know, it, it's not, it's certainly not forgettable in the way that a lot of others have been.

Carson:

Yeah. And that's something else that's happened really of like, um. Just to show you how much can change in two years as we've went from Marvel being on top of the world, they were already kind of tapering off, two years ago. But now,

Preston:

not to

Carson:

um, it's, it's crazy to think that there is an Avengers movie coming out tentatively the end of next year, and I feel zero emotions towards any momentum. Towards anything happening in that movie.

Preston:

I feel dread.

Carson:

And it's, I feel terrified for what the script could even be.

Preston:

think

Carson:

What they are.

Preston:

think it's

Carson:

I don't think they know. And so, you know, it goes off this whole thing of like, I think they're just throwing spaghetti at a wall. And I think the audiences are starting to reject that a little bit. Now granted, Marvel's made some good movies. Since, uh, this has happened, but

Preston:

Four. Did you

Carson:

I liked Fantastic Four and

Preston:

Superman better, but I certainly had a lot of fun with Fantastic Four. Thought it was the, maybe the

Carson:

Me too.

Preston:

four movie.

Carson:

You know what I like more than that though, is I really like Thunderbolts, and it's a ding. It's a shame that that movie isn't hyped up enough because audiences have basically. Rejected stuff in and around that. So when there's an original property, it's not theatrical enough that people want to show up and invest in new story.'cause there's still the stigma of like, oh my gosh, we're on like the 32nd Marvel movie. I need to know all this stuff. And it's just we, I don't know. So

Preston:

I

Carson:

it's honestly like.

Preston:

a really interesting episode not to cut in, but if we were to do an episode over like how. Would we fix Marvel? What would we do? What? How do you do that?

Carson:

It's so funny'cause we have these conversations at work all the time and I often rant about how I'm like, we just need a new phase one. Like it really, the reason people feel like that there, it's like this weird limbo state of Marvel is because. We have like half of the characters are still like from the old era, who are then supposed to, like, you're supposed to remember the continuity of, and then like care for them because you know that continuity. But then you have the new characters who are interacting with old characters, but immediately who you're trying to force the same hype of the old characters into this new story. And then audiences reject the new characters because they're just constantly reminded of like, oh man, wish Chris Evans was here. Wish Robert Denny Jr. Was here. Wish, whatever. So like you don't give each new franchise enough time to breathe and like build up like the reason Captain America worked, the reason Thor worked, the reason Iron Man worked is'cause they all had their own little world inhabit. And by the time it built up to the Avenger, even the Avengers in 2012. Um, you know, the team ups, I think about like how hype like Civil War was when that movie came out. Like, but they all had three or four movies on their own to like build up its characters and experiment with different genres and get people invested in each of the different, things that the characters brought to the table. It's like you just don't have that anymore. And then it's like, boom, here's, here's, Avengers Doomsday, and, you know. Don't think too hard that Robert Downey Jr. Is a different character, but he is, and

Preston:

It's such

Carson:

whatever.

Preston:

I can't

Carson:

It's,

Preston:

I have such a hard time with that. I really do. Like, I just, you know, maybe they pull it off. He's a very good actor. Doom is a fascinating character. heard they're doing the whole CGI mask thing, which makes me want to just crumple into a ball and die. Who knows what happens this year though, Carson, we talked a little bit about Superman and talked a little bit about. Weapons. That was the summer, been about fantastic foreign thunderbolts. And I kind of wanna use that as segue into this year because there have been some good movies that have come out this year, some of which just mentioned, and others that we haven't mentioned yet. One that I kind of want to talk about, right now is that, mean, what an experience movie was. I'm not over that one.

Carson:

I am kicking myself because I did not see it in theaters, and I just recently watched it like two months ago. I'm at home and it was of course amazing at home, but like, whenever it hopefully gets re-released in imax, that's gonna be like a day one thing for me because I can't imagine how glorious that was. Didn't you, didn't you drive like two hours to go see a nimax, by the way?

Preston:

I did not drive two hours while I was okay. I was already going to Dallas for something else.

Carson:

For work. Right, or for something else. Yeah. Like,

Preston:

remember. To be quite honest, it wasn't for work. It was something for my sister, maybe, I don't know.

Carson:

hmm.

Preston:

One way or another, I had something important going on and I squeezed in sinners, which that's a six hour drive. I squeezed in sinners and I got there and I went there immediately. Whenever I got there, I drove straight into the theater basically, and saw it in 70 millimeter imax, which was just so cool. I have never, it was the first time I'd seen something in 70 millimeter. Unbelievable. I felt the worst part about it, was nothing about the movie. I had already seen it, which was good for this scenario, but the worst part about it was I was like, uh, I was so pulled up, right? And you know, you go on like a six hour road trip, you don't exactly. Show up on time of the time. And I didn't show

Carson:

Stuff happens.

Preston:

I showed up, I was like, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes in, there were, I believe, I don't think there were any trailers because it was 70 millimeter. So it's a whole different projecting projection system and all that. So they didn't even have trailers, I don't think. so I was like thinking the whole time. I was like, okay, I'll be good with trailers. And then I get there and I texted our group chat actually with some of our friends. I said, Hey, do they have trailers for these 70 millimeters and all of our

Carson:

Immediately were bullied.

Preston:

I like, I know, how do you not know this? And, uh, they did not have trailers. And so I got in there and man, I had my, I, I'm glad I didn't get like popcorn or like, uh, uh, you know, anything to open loudly.'cause my seat, I got this ticket like when they dropped, like I got this ticket way in advance. So my seat

Carson:

So you are dead in the center.

Preston:

dab in the middle of that thing. And this, the theater in the 70 millimeter. It's very compact. Like they only have, there's not a lot of leg room in these places. There's not recliners the way that. There aren't a lot of other theaters because they're trying to smash as many chairs as they can, that can see this humongous screen. And so I'm like just trying to tiptoe through people. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I think I knocked over somebody's popcorn.

Carson:

Oh,

Preston:

think I, I

Carson:

brutal.

Preston:

something. which is just like ATM I, but I, you know, adds to the

Carson:

No. After sitting for six hours, like, yeah.

Preston:

from sitting in my car and from like running to the theater, like running

Carson:

Yeah.

Preston:

essentially, or like fast walking at the very least. Um, God, it was so embarrassing and I just sat down and I was like, I can't move for the rest of this movie. Not that I planned to. You know, but like,

Carson:

Not a single breath. Not a single cough.

Preston:

was a little worried I was

Carson:

Yeah.

Preston:

the middle of the movie, because I just tripped

Carson:

walk in.

Preston:

20 straight people. And I just, I felt, I felt terrible for, for all of them. By myself no less, just this random little boy going to see sinners, tripping over everybody on the way in. But was fantastic. I loved that movie and I loved seeing it in 70 Millimeter. I, there were so many moments, that, you know, I remember specifically when the first time they used the full aspect ratio, my jaw just dropped, know, it was a cut to.

Carson:

When, when in the movie did they first do that?

Preston:

So it's when they're in the little buggy, they're traveling. You know what I'm talking about?

Carson:

Oh, when? When he, when he first started singing to, or like when they get on the road.

Preston:

It's like the opening of that scene. There's a shot of the sun and it's only a couple seconds long, but it's just a

Carson:

Mm-hmm.

Preston:

of the sun just straight up. there's just kind of a cool way to just kind of open the scene, I guess, showing like. You know, bright sun, hot as hot as hell out there,

Carson:

Yeah.

Preston:

know, but that was the first scene and the sun smack dab in the middle of the frame. And that was the first scene, the first shot. If I'm not mistaken, that they used the full aspect ratio on it. And it's not like a gradual sort of thing, you know, the way they do in some sort of aspect ratio shifts, like

Carson:

Yeah. It's just like, boom. There it is.

Preston:

And it's cut from, I can't remember. Maybe like the train. it wouldn't be the train. I don't remember what they're cutting from before that scene,

Carson:

Yeah.

Preston:

just the fact that it's a, just a shot of the sun, just like bam. And it's bright and it's in your face and it's humongous on that screen. My jaw dropped. I remember when that happened. I was like, oh my God. that was incredible. Now I'm realizing after telling this story that I'm not really the most reliable person to ask that question to because I was 15 minutes late to the movie. So that might

Carson:

Yeah, you probably, you probably did miss the first aspect ratio chain.

Preston:

There was a pretty good chance I've actually missed it.

Carson:

I, this is why.

Preston:

a good

Carson:

This is why,

Preston:

my first one,

Carson:

This will hold us accountable for future releases that we cannot, and yeah, I know I have that problem too, of showing up to movies.

Preston:

kids.

Carson:

Mm-hmm.

Preston:

have no trailers in those

Carson:

anyways, also, speaking of just like cool things that have happened this year, like. Both sinners and weapons and like some other original movies doing really good. I was like that. It feels,

Preston:

well.

Carson:

it feels awesome that like, that sort of, I, and it feels like it's sort of the, uh, the tides are shifting kind of moment that like, you know, there's always people that are like, oh, they're, you know, there's just nothing original and Hollywood doesn't make anything original, which like, yes, from a. 5,000 foot view, like that's broadly true. That like it's very hard to make something that's both original and popular these days. There's obviously still thousands of movies that are original and just aren't widely seen'cause it's just so much noise. But these two movies, doing what they did and sinners being the success that it was, is just awesome because it's such a cool, unique movie with a unique message. And I was like, did the, I think I wrote like some cheeky one liner letter box review is like this, like making me believe in the post credit scene again. Like I was like, dang. Like, because I was thinking like. Okay. It makes sense that it's post credit scene, but also it could have been the ending scene. But then I thought about it again. I was like, I'm so glad that it is the post credit scene. And it like kind of adds like, just like an after statement that's not a tease, but like thematically ties the whole movie together,

Preston:

nice to see a post credit scene utilized as an epilogue

Carson:

Yeah.

Preston:

of

Carson:

Yeah. That's a great way to put it.

Preston:

Like that. I feel like that, not that I dislike the hype, you know, there are some post credited scenes that I do enjoy that kind of get me excited. You know, I think Avengers Doomsday as gonna be a, a disaster, quite frankly.

Carson:

Gonna be a dooms day.

Preston:

I just, I al I was trying to find a pun. It's gonna be a doomsday. Uh, I, I, I think it's gonna be bad. said, though. All things considered. At the same time, I would be lying I said that the post credit scene in Fantastic Four, where it shows him, you know, doom with the baby, I would be lying if I didn't kind of like get a little butterflies in that moment. I was like, oh my God, it's Dr. Do now. I do, I think it's gonna, you know, immediately afterward I was like, ah, that's, that's gonna be such a bad movie. Like they made

Carson:

You had to like talk to yourself and like

Preston:

in the

Carson:

come back down to Earth.

Preston:

They introduced these characters, I think they did better than they've ever done with these four characters and I'm so happy for that. And I really bought into it and I really liked it. You know, I didn't, I didn't think it was amazing, but I was like just excited over the fact that they made a good Fantastic four movie that I really enjoyed and am looking forward to rewatching. And then the immediate real and the hype of the post credit scene. Oh my God, that's Dr. Do this. So exciting. Oh my God, doomsday. And then just immediately like, oh, they're gonna ruin these characters. Oh my.

Carson:

you just know like, I hate that I'm even tapped into any of this speculation crap that it was like, I saw like the thing of like, well, what if Spider-Man sees his face and goes, Mr. Stark, is that you?

Preston:

I'll lose my

Carson:

I just like

Preston:

my

Carson:

is, this is everything wrong. If that happens, we're canceling the podcast. That's, that's just what's gonna happen.

Preston:

gonna, don't even, it's over. It's all done. Um, I thought Fantastic Four was good because effectively it wasn't an MCU movie at all.

Carson:

finally could just be in its own time.

Preston:

It was self-contained. It was its own thing. You don't have to worry about cameos. You don't even have to worry about even if the cameos or the other appearances fit within the story. You know, there's a lot of other stories that happen the MCU that they're including different, you know, like Punisher is going to be. A supporting character in the new Spider-Man movie and it's probably, I think it'll probably make sense. I think it'll probably be weaved in perfectly. I think that'll be great. But it was kind of cool to see a Fantastic four movie that was just the Fantastic Four. You didn't have to, even if they were well included and good for the narrative side characters, you just didn't have to make those connections in your brain of like, oh, he's from this and that's, that's why he said that, you know, when they make sly references to their past or whatever, which they do all the time. I thought that was why Fantastic Four As good as it was for me was because it was not an MCU movie effectively. It was not, there were no connections. was, you know, even the Dr. Doom stuff, even the, the post credit with Dr. Doom, obviously it will connect to doomsday and all that, as it is, that's new. It's all new, it's all its own thing. And really just, it was nice, it was a breath of fresh air. Because you think back to the phase one movies like you're talking about, we didn't think about that stuff when Captain America, came out. I guess there was the, there was the connection with Howard Stark a little bit, but then,

Carson:

It wasn't nearly as emphasized like or

Preston:

And Thor

Carson:

perceptually. It wasn't. Yeah.

Preston:

like Thor won. Thor is Thor. There is nothing

Carson:

Mm-hmm.

Preston:

in that movie that connects to something else happening in the universe.

Carson:

The biggest bummer about Fantastic Ford to me is I wish the movie came out five years ago and had its own natural through line, just like Thor, captain America, all his guys did. It sucks that we have a great first appearance from them, and then they're immediately in Avengers Doomsday as their next appearance. To me, that's a huge bummer.

Preston:

that's why I was kind of bummed out. Whenever you realize, that's their next appearance, because it says the fantastic four will

Carson:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Preston:

it's like, oh.

Carson:

Yeah.

Preston:

we don't get a fantastic four, two, we don't get a,

Carson:

Yeah. It's just,

Preston:

even like a, I don't even know, a, a Disney plus spinoff show of, you know, Johnny Storm. I don't care. Like, we don't get some sort of natural continuation of these characters in this story. We just are immediately putting them into this larger story somehow that makes no sense still how they're gonna do

Carson:

yeah.

Preston:

That's a bummer.

Carson:

But yeah, I wish, I almost wish we were like alternating fantastic four and X-Men movies for like four years. Like, honestly, like I would've taken something that was like no other MCU movies came out, post Endgame except Fantastic Four and X-Men movies. And then like those characters anchored the new. Team up movies, it would've been pretty cool. And then obviously Spider-Man. But again, it's just tough when you get to a point of like line go up, we need to make money on all these movies.

Preston:

the issue with all of it. I think

Carson:

Yeah.

Preston:

so much more successful, if they were able to take like a five year hiatus

Carson:

Oh, can you imagine?

Preston:

end game.

Carson:

I.

Preston:

Like, you know, maybe release Guardians of Galaxy Volume three. But other than that, you know, just be able to take a break. But they couldn't do that. So, because there's money to be made and the mouse stops for no one. As I've learned in personal experience, Mickey Mouse needs his paychecks, Bob Iger as well. What else came

Carson:

If he ever retires.

Preston:

Yeah. Who they, he tried and then nearly ran the company on the ground

Carson:

They needed him back.

Preston:

Yeah. They need, and that's, you know, I far be it from me to, as the kids say glaze a CEO of a corporation, but man, as a, as a lifelong Disney guy, I'm wearing a Pixar hat, Walt Disney World shirt. I can't even fake it right now. Um, am who I am as a lifelong Disney guy. You know, it's like. That, that jpeg era was not good, at all for, for the the, for the films, for the tv, and especially for what I care about the parks. It was just, it was disastrous. But this summer some other good stuff came out. I liked the Naked Gun a lot and I have not seen Its predecessors.

Carson:

Yeah.

Preston:

love that movie. I was laugh, a joke every. 45 seconds is such a risk to take and when it's got like a 95% hit rate, that's insane. Did you

Carson:

It's pretty, pretty dang good. No, and I've been wanting to watch it. Um,

Preston:

It's pretty

Carson:

'cause I have seen the original. Yeah.

Preston:

Like

Carson:

They were worried that it was like, because it's like, it's like old style, sarcasm and like, or not sarcasm, like, it's just a different style of joke that I don't necessarily think people in their twenties would've found funny, but it seems like everyone I talked to that has seen it and know nothing about, naked Gun is like, oh my gosh. It was fricking hilarious.

Preston:

Yeah, so that's kinda the last two years. We are going to be continuing, this is not a one-time reunion of Zollypod and then we are gone. That is not what's happening here. We will be releasing new episodes and we will be talking about new things. Including, but not limited to Avatar, fire and Ash, which we are not getting paid for. But if, if you, Hey

Carson:

We could be,

Preston:

Hey Jim,

Carson:

could be paid for

Preston:

you wanna pay us, like well dang it, you actually, you know, like, us see the movie 24 hours early. That's it. I don't need money

Carson:

That's all we need.

Preston:

that's fi six hours early. I don't care enough to where I can get out and be like, I saw it. Have fun. what are you excited for as the remainder of this year and really, I guess broadly, even more so just for the future of this podcast?

Carson:

Yeah, so in terms of the podcast, I think I'm just excited to like. Try and build this back up and build it past what we kind of accomplished before and like really get a consistency with it. Talk about a variety of different things, you know, kind of hopefully build some sort of community around it eventually, like somewhere that we can both talk about the things that we're watching, but also, you know, more broadly what's happening with movies, we, I think we kind of default to that sometimes'cause it's fun to talk about like, oh, look at the trajectory of Marvel and how it's affected the movie business. Like I think we, we kind of nerd out over like the broader picture of how movies and the business works. And I think it's fun to analyze that. But then also like nerd out about like. You know, individual filmmakers and maybe old movies that we haven't watched or, I know it's gonna be fun to like introduce each other to movies that we've really appreciated that the other person hasn't seen. Stuff like that. I'm excited to talk to other people and interview people and bring people on this podcast that, also have perspectives on, on movies and everything in between. So I think that's gonna be a fun feature of whatever these episodes look like going forward. And then, yeah, movies wise, like 2026 is kind of insane. A lot of big movies coming out. A lot of, smaller filmmakers coming back. I think next year is gonna be pretty big. The rest of this year too, there's, some really fun things coming out. Obviously I'm looking forward to something like Avatar. But also like, you know, we have Oscar season coming up. I'm excited for like, wake Up, dead Mans coming out. We got, all sorts of movies from. Big filmmakers that we, you know, some of which we've talked about on the podcast before

Preston:

Spider-Man are next year. If we're talking

Carson:

it, that's crazy.

Preston:

genre, like that's next year.

Carson:

Mm-hmm.

Preston:

the ones that we've talked about, but it's pretty crazy that that's next year. They just announced, and this isn't really maybe our niche, but the Super Mario Galaxy movie is coming out starring Mario Chris

Carson:

Starring. Yep. And I love. Super Mario Galaxy. So I'll be so curious because I didn't really like the, the movie, um,

Preston:

story five.

Carson:

what this movie. I feel like that's gonna be a two hour and 40 minute episode podcast

Preston:

could be.

Carson:

us about reflecting about the deeper meaning of should they make a sequel or should they not.

Preston:

That's, Yeah.

Carson:

But yes, lots of stuff coming out.

Preston:

Lots of good stuff coming out. Lots of things to be excited for. I'm really excited, to have more guests on this show, and get back into

Carson:

Yeah, for sure.

Preston:

Great interviews in the past and, I'm looking forward to kind of getting back into that and having some interesting guests on the pod because you know, that was kind of the original vision of this show we want to create a space where we can obviously, you know, have our own kind of podcast the way that we have for the last 52 minutes give or take. But that being said also to where not only it's just us talking, but where we kind of get some insight and talk to some people about what their role within the industry is and what they do and why they love it, and, and, and those. Those sorts of things, and I think that that'll be something that I'm excited for personally. Whether it's talking about movies or just production in general I think is just really fascinating. There's so many different angles with that. I'm really excited to talk to. Different people and get their perspectives and be able to share some of those stories on here, as well. It's gonna be fun. I'm excited for it. And we are going to remain, whether you like it or not, I'm looking directly at the camera

Carson:

On all platforms, we will remain.

Preston:

on all platforms. That is a threat.

Carson:

So you have, you have, with that said, you have to follow us now

Preston:

follow

Carson:

if you're new especially,

Preston:

Subscribe.

Carson:

and if you are new, you can go back to season one

Preston:

season one, because

Carson:

I mean, listen, you're not watching, this is season two is Oli Pod.

Preston:

And it will be never ending. We may never switch to a season three because we're gonna be so consistent

Carson:

If, if we get to. Episode 2 99. And then what do we do? Well, 2 99 0.1. Get ready?

Preston:

Yep. That just goes on till 2 99 0.99. This is how long we're going for this thing. You're in it for the long haul

Carson:

Mm-hmm.

Preston:

Carson, final thoughts, anything that we haven't talked about that you wanna mention before we hop off this thing?

Carson:

Oh, just excited to be back. And yeah, like we said, there's gonna be, regular episodes coming and we're excited to, put our heads together and come up with some unique episode ideas as well. You know, this is obviously just kind of a kickoff episode to kind of announce that we're back, but we're definitely gonna come up with some fun, things as, the year goes on. You know, I think back to like our Halloween horror episodes, I can't wait for that time of year. It's personally one of my favorite holidays. So

Preston:

like

Carson:

definitely,

Preston:

mean, we got like two

Carson:

uh, right now get ready,

Preston:

Yeah, we're just gonna turn into a Halloween podcast. Gotcha. We're

Carson:

trick or treat the rewatch.

Preston:

Trick or treat, re rewatch. Um, no. That'll be great. We got a lot of good stuff, that we're excited to bring back to this podcast and excited. So like we said, if you have not subscribed, make sure you do so because we will be back. If you have not turned on your notifications, make sure you do so. You can follow us on social media at Zollypod, and we will be back with the next one very soon.

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